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In a long discussion on youtube that started with my comment (it  was later deleted), in which I was objecting some points the author of the video made, on one point I responded to another person, who asked me about fruitarianism after I mentioned it:

The one thing I should to tell you here is that fruitarians are not all alike, there are not many of them (us) but they all have their unique set of reasons to follow this lifestyle. For example, my reasons developed from ethical, aesthetic and habitual considerations, many fruitarians are religiously driven (I am a lifelong atheist myself), many think that raw food is the answer to all health challenges and eat lots of fruit as a part of the diet (I am not a raw-foodie), some do not even consume seeds, and subset of this group believe that seeds are just like babies; some eat leaves, some don't, not all fruitarians are vegans, etc. The only thing I found similar among all fruitarians I know, is that the biggest part of their diet (~75%) is fruit, usually fresh, and there are some studies already made that could be used in support of such choice. 

I hope it gives you some idea about the absence of uniformity in fruitarianism, and why discussing it here is not preferable. Also, I am obviously not able to speak neither for all fruitarians, nor for all vegans.

This is an exchange of comments about ideas expressed in a video by Mexie Mermaid "Have Nothing, Give Everything. [Buddhism and Selfishness]"

Fruitarian Lena: 

I wonder about your sources for the base idea of selfishness. It sounds like popularized nonsense (sorry, I like your channel, and expect more :) 

So, all people who save money for their future or business, are selfish?! I don't know people who don't want to give anything of theirs for anything. 

Do you know a bit from history, what happens when property rights are not respected? And what on Earth "patriarchy" has to do with it?

I learned about this DxE pledge on the great channel ModVegan, and commented: 

Margaret, this is the first time I hear about this Liberation Pledge (thank you), and I am completely against it.

Positive pear-pressure? They are calling for acts of public disrespect to the participants' closest people! The first result will be alienation of these people from their loved ones, colleagues, and clients, and in deep personal problems.

Your alternative is much better, but every vegan would act this way in most situations anyway. I am a long-term vegan, BTW. 

If some people tell you that you need to drink multiple liters of water and eat over 3000-5000 food calories every day regardless what your individual needs may be, if they advise you to sleep half of your lifetime without providing any supporting scientific data, if they tell you to never ever consume toxic temperature treated foods and then later switch the recommendation to any carbs, if they say you can eat tons of low fat stuff like potatoes and do not ever gain weight, if they try to alienate you from the rest of humanity by urging you to speak up and give ultimatums anytime anybody use any animal products, but they start with slamming people who are their direct competitors on the media market for trading only one ethically questionable product in small quantities, and in the same time they never discuss how some huge banana companies destroyed vast areas of wildlife, if they justify anything they say by their caring for animals and the planet, if they shame people with other body shapes and call it love, if they delete all challenging data on their sites, and tell people who are not successful on the regiment that they just lie, do something wrong or simply need years for a good lifestyle to start working, and then they tell you, that this is the only way to be healthy and considerate, - please do not necessarily believe it

Dear fruitarian friends and supporters of this page, several month ago Facebook had removed the updates of this and, as far as I know, many other pages from the main feeds of subscribers, and after that only few people who had apparently re-added the updates to their news pages are able to see the posts, as well as the new subscribers, only if the fb shows them as a "top story" for the default settings for most people. Before almost each message here was seen by at least half of all followers, now it is around 2-3%. Even for me, the admin, it is difficult to see the updates.

I should have drawn your attention to this earlier, but it seemed to be making no sense, because most of you still won't get the message. It was quite a discouraging experience, waiting for the problem been solved. Today I realized that even your messages and links here stay unnoticed! Please accept my apology, there is not much I can do about it, but I'll give it a thought. Facebook offers now (less aggressively than after the change) to "boost" each post - basically, to push them onto subscribers of the page and their friends for ~$40+ for one day. This is kind of strange and not sustainable, because this page is not for business...

Let me wish you a great New year, many-many aromatic wonderfully ripe fruits, great success on finding your optimal diet and personal happiness! Very best, Lena

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