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My comment on ModVegan's video "Vegan Sell-Outs":

Everyone can be vegan - just eat vegan, and maybe go further. Veganism is for everyone, in every industry, with any occupation, and situation, and any levels of awareness or ethics. Calling anyone "not real vegan" - especially knowing that being vegan is not a rewarding social position - is unnecessary demanding and even intimidating fashion among vegans, detrimental to the spread of veganism, imho. I observed it for years, and never witnessed anything good or productive resulting from it.

Sorry to disagree on this one, Margaret. 

This is my original article 30Bad Method Critique, first published on Fruitarians.net on June 6th 2010, and for which I was blocked from the community by Freelee (see in the end, for misrepresenting banana industry) The old URL was: fruitarians.net/forum/topic/30bananasaday-com-Method.htm

Now, 6 years later, I decided to publish it again, for the history, and because some of the problems were not resolved, and I just found out recently, how bad it became (RawTill4 - sugar drinks as healthy nutrition, people who criticize them being accused in crimes, violence threats, etc.

I edited the text to adopt it to the new site formatting, and to make it more readable. I also needed to remove a few of my sentences, because the discussions, which provided the context for them on 30bananasaday.com, were deleted. 

The content of this article: Caloric Model, Amount of Food, Cost of that Quantity of Fruit, Bananas and Dates, 100% Raw, One Bite and You Are Lost, Sleep and Water, Suspension

In a long discussion on youtube that started with my comment (it  was later deleted), in which I was objecting some points the author of the video made, on one point I responded to another person, who asked me about fruitarianism after I mentioned it:

The one thing I should to tell you here is that fruitarians are not all alike, there are not many of them (us) but they all have their unique set of reasons to follow this lifestyle. For example, my reasons developed from ethical, aesthetic and habitual considerations, many fruitarians are religiously driven (I am a lifelong atheist myself), many think that raw food is the answer to all health challenges and eat lots of fruit as a part of the diet (I am not a raw-foodie), some do not even consume seeds, and subset of this group believe that seeds are just like babies; some eat leaves, some don't, not all fruitarians are vegans, etc. The only thing I found similar among all fruitarians I know, is that the biggest part of their diet (~75%) is fruit, usually fresh, and there are some studies already made that could be used in support of such choice. 

I hope it gives you some idea about the absence of uniformity in fruitarianism, and why discussing it here is not preferable. Also, I am obviously not able to speak neither for all fruitarians, nor for all vegans.

This is an exchange of comments about ideas expressed in a video by Mexie Mermaid "Have Nothing, Give Everything. [Buddhism and Selfishness]"

Fruitarian Lena: 

I wonder about your sources for the base idea of selfishness. It sounds like popularized nonsense (sorry, I like your channel, and expect more :) 

So, all people who save money for their future or business, are selfish?! I don't know people who don't want to give anything of theirs for anything. 

Do you know a bit from history, what happens when property rights are not respected? And what on Earth "patriarchy" has to do with it?

I learned about this DxE pledge on the great channel ModVegan, and commented: 

Margaret, this is the first time I hear about this Liberation Pledge (thank you), and I am completely against it.

Positive pear-pressure? They are calling for acts of public disrespect to the participants' closest people! The first result will be alienation of these people from their loved ones, colleagues, and clients, and in deep personal problems.

Your alternative is much better, but every vegan would act this way in most situations anyway. I am a long-term vegan, BTW. 

Your comments, suggestions, critique, and ideas:
George Bernard Shaw

The worst sin toward our fellow creatures is not to hate them, but to be indifferent to them: that's the essence of inhumanity. 

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