Fruitarians.net AppleSupport this project with the youtube button. 

Responses, Commentary

Discussions, responses and commentary, answers. 

This is a good book for a fruitarian artist like me: about plants, beauty, and passion. The main topics are apples, tulips, marijuana, potato. Yo can learn - surprisingly - about specifics of opium high or flying penises (bees). Additionally, the author offers some interesting observations about life of plants and his position on GMO as a gardener.

Since September 2016, I watched quite a few videos on a YouTube channel à-bas-le-ciel by Eisel Mazard. I started with his critique on Durianrider and Freelee the Banana Girl, but then switched somehow to his older videos on veganism, and liked many of them. Even though I disagree with many of his views and his style of argumentation, I find it is good to have a channel like this in the vegan online world.

Charles Marlowe (TheVeganCheetah) has published a video about the termination of a youtube channel of Martin Louis and his reflections on his own content. The description of the video: 

Earlier this week Marin Louis lost his YouTube channel. In this video I am reaching out to him, and showing support for his channel going back online. This is another reason why we need to move in a new direction this year with my channel. 

My comment: 

Charles, you've been kind to me when I tried to start a channel a few years ago, I wish I could say something good but honest to you. Your vlogs are very good, I've actually enjoyed most of them from the beginning: your story is strong, you have a nice presence on camera. I think, you possess some excellent material for a documentary film - maybe you could find a filmmaker to work on it (unfortunately, though, it is hard to make money with documentaries, but if film is recognized by some festivals, you can be noticed by the right people in the industry). If you cannot make a film, right a script in your spare time. 

Your drama channel has two flaws from my perspective: your provocative ideas are expressed in a too unpleasant way, and you do not research enough for a proper argument. I do believe you can find a good audience among people who approach veganism from various directions, but it is good to acknowledge that being fully vegan is still a personal accomplishment and a social position, and respect that as well. You had a good opportunity to bring people together with that idea, but the way you did it was counterproductive (if it was your intent, I doubt it though). Stay critical, but invest some time in improving your critical thinking. Good luck in LA. 

My response on a new video by ModVegan. The video with a part of its description:

Can vegans support animal welfare campaigns without compromising on animal rights? Does advocating for some animals undermine our desire to see justice for all animals? 

Gary Francione has long argued that Single Issue Campaigns are bad for the vegan movement. While I agree that many single issue campaigns make non-vegans feel better about alternative forms of cruelty (leather instead of fur, duck instead of foie gras). But I think some single issue campaigns can be great. 


My comment:

Margaret, I disagree with you and Francione on this one :) - well, on the beginning arguments. I think both ant fur and anti foie gras are useful, they brought real changes, including legal limitations, plus general public awareness about such types of problems. Your argumentation for anti cat fur is applicable to those causes. No one implied that people should replace fur with leather.

I do not like all-or-nothing campaigns because they are too broad and require too much change from people, who are not ready to abolish everything at once, and who will just ignore them. Incremental change, if probable, is better than nothing to concentrate on. Veganism, abolitionism and single issue causes can coexist. Also, killing animals for art (film) is my personal no-no.

I also found another video with Margareth on Francione: 

My comment:

Such an interesting conversation - thank you! I was in the linkedin group for ethical vegans for many years, it was exclusive for supporters of Francione. Unfortunately, the manager and I disagreed too much :) Margaret, I'll look up the kindle book, thanks for the info!

Alec Android:

Fruitarian's Network I know an Abolitionist who was banned from Francione's page because she defended her friend after her friend was banned for some disagreement with Francione or the moderator. Then I myself got blocked from an abolitonist group for being friends with her, even though I'm an abolitionist who genuinely hates most if not all of the same non-abolitionist things that Francione hates. They're a weirdly exclusive little group online. The internet can facilitate that kind of shitty behaviour. I understand excluding non-abolitionists ("welfarists") but they go further than that in the defence of superficial idiosyncracies and personalities as if they were fundamentally important principles.

My comment:

This is a familiar scenario for online communities :) That professional group never grew much, and became practically inactive.

I was asked this question by a very nice person. The first version of the question was (with a few additional details):

...do you think high fruit raw vegan diet is optimal for health? ...I honestly sense i am not going the right way, as I am not "glowing" on this lifestyle. Would love your perspective.

The final version of the question was:

...is this diet key to vitality and health, aside of course relationships, state of mind and etc.

In this semi-spontaneous response I did not touch on a few important aspects of the issue because the subject was a bit too broad and complex to give an comprehensive and definitive short answer. I also did not know almost anything about this person experience with this diet. The video is ~ 30 minutes long:

Your comments, suggestions, critique, and ideas:
Thich Nhat Hanh

If we stop consuming, they will stop producing.

Random Article

Fruitarians.net Apple